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 Posted: Wed Sep 6th, 2017 06:15 pm
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Washington National Cathedral have decided to remove the Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson windows:

https://cathedral.org/press-room/announcement-future-lee-jackson-windows/

There are loads more windows like this in other churches of course.

Wayne



 Posted: Fri Sep 8th, 2017 08:27 pm
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http://mtpr.org/post/national-cathedral-removing-stained-glass-windows-honoring-confederate-leaders

photos of the 2 windows to be removed....the openings will be covered over until such time as someone decides what to do!!



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Does anyone know what studio did this work at Washington Natl Cathedral? Thanks. I will be discussing it at a monthly meeting of local Civil War roundtable. Thanks.



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According to the following book, it was Wilbur H. Burnham:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=gETOCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA158&dq=washington+national+cathedral+1953+stained+glass+windows&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=washington%20national%20cathedral%201953%20stained%20glass%20windows&f=false



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Sorry I didn't make myself clear.......the studio that did the recent removal/change of the Confederate flag situation.



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Ah (!). The following implies it was Goldkuhle Studios:

http://religionnews.com/2016/09/28/confederate-flag-images-quietly-removed-from-national-cathedral/

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more about the stained glass at Washington Natl. Cathedral....several different videos discussing various windows.

https://cathedral.org/architecture/restoration-work/stained-glass/


and there is a book about the stained glass windows.

https://shop.cathedral.org/a552/jewels-of-light-1.html



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St Paul's in Richmond, VA, has two significant stained glass windows in memory of Robert E. Lee (by Henry Holiday) and Jefferson Davis (by Tiffany), although their subjects are not directly related to the Confederacy.

Their rector resigned a few days ago and some people are attributing this to a disagreement between the vestry and the rector about the way forward in regard to the Confederate symbols in the church. (And who knows, maybe the Washington National Cathedral decision brought this to a head.)

http://www.richmond.com/news/local/rector-of-st-paul-s-episcopal-church-in-richmond-resigns/article_194be9b3-b41e-5231-b0e2-105297ff37e0.html

(See also the comments at the bottom.)

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Andrew Goldkuhle posted on Facebook that he has already removed the Lee and Jackson windows, is now documenting them and putting them in storage. Facebook being Facebook, I went back to find the link and couldn't find the post again.

Worth reading in all this is a report by the Cathedral from June 2016 about their deliberations over these windows, going back to 2015, after the Charleston shootings. Especially interesting is the middle section, the Appendix, where there is correspondence between the Cathedral and the United Daughters of the Confederacy, who commissioned the windows.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/315196843/Confederate-Windows-Report



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I don't have much to do right now, I would love to paint and glaze them over. At present I have 5 windows in the Cathedral one tower window, South tower, Childs Discovery In the south MainArcade bay 2, The Healing Arts.
Protestan Stream of Chrisiianity, Clerestory South Transept. Angels of Ministration, Choir, North Clerestoryand the Raising Of Lazarus, did that on twice,Canon Feller thought the people in it looked too surprised and unhappy. I kinda thought they were unhappy they said he Stinketh, plud he had been dead for a coupla days or weeks. But I got um simling in the second time around and R.T. Feller accepted it. So I have some experence in taking things out and puttin um back, I miss the good old days. CZ

Charles Z Lawrence
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http://www.charleszlawrence.com



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Goldkuhle Studios removed the windows and is in the process of conserving the windows, including digital photography archival vellums etc. The windows were completely restored by Dieter Goldkuhle in '97-'98 and are in excellent condition. The windows will be returned to the Cathedral, after they have been cared for, ready for their next life.



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This "issue" will permeate throughout the US, in regard to statues in civic centers, books in libraries, and.... stained glass.....if you think about it, early Presidents had slaves as well as Rockefeller-type folks......we/society have moved past this and I personally would like to see this current situation treated as a time for "LEARNING"......dont' remove these possible controversial items but provide written/vocal discussions of BOTH sides of the issue, whatever that may be....for future generations...isn't that how all of us learned about "right" and "wrong"????



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Tom K. I don't believe that they are going into storage.

Here are the Dean's comments that may clear up concerns that folks are having....worth a listen if you have 3-4 minutes:
http://www.npr.org/2017/09/08/549373803/cathedral-dean-on-decision-to-remove-confederate-stained-glass-windows

His comments may not address all concerns or be what folks want to hear but it is their position and reasoning.



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