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Don Burt
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 Mon Sep 7th, 2009 04:57 pm
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I'm making a small panel (13x16) with a simple lead pattern. I would like to plate some of the piece in two layers. Maybe the whole panel. I've think I remember Vic describing a process for plating using high-heart came and siliconing the glass pieces together at the edge, but I don't have any of that came on hand. I can get a box of high-heart I guess, but if there is a good way to do it otherwise, I'd be interested to hear it. I don't see a way to simply solder the layers together and avoid putty issues.  I'd prefer using lead over copper foil at least on the front. Is there a way to do it, or should I just resign and buy a box of high-heart? Thanks in advance for any advice.

mmezalick
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 Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 06:55 pm
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Don,

Take two strips of lead.

Cut the top off of each

Place the two hearts together and run a bead of solder down what would be the new higher heart.

Clean well.

To make it easier, I have a lenght of 1X with several groves cut into it. I can adjust the height of the heart by placing the lead into the different groves.

Do not overlap the heart or you will be adding to the internal thickness.

Michael

PS I also have several boxes of the different HH leads available.

Vic
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 Mon Sep 7th, 2009 07:42 pm
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With a flat came:

1- you can lift 1/2 the back flange (assuming you're plating on the back) from horizontal to vertical. Then cut a came in an "L" shape. Solder the "L" to the vertical flange to form 1/2 a high heart.

2- Use the highest H came you have slice 1/2 the flange and slowly lift it up where you need the extra height. Cut a lead strip and solder up the hole.

3- Solder 2 cames together. Build the base layer with regular H came. For the plate, wrap it in a U came and solder it to the H came.

When soldering 2 pieces of came together, only putty the outer flanges, not the inside ones. Use a dry putty mix and don't push too hard. You don't want the putty to get between the plates.  I don't silicone the plates together. If this is not done a dry climate, you may trap moisture between the glass.

Don Burt
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 Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 09:17 pm
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Thank you for the great explanations, Michael and Vic

Don Burt
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 Sat Dec 5th, 2009 03:07 am
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I went with Vic's option #3. Thanks again for the suggestions. Here's a picture of it: The center of the piece is the two layer plate.

http://www.burtglass.com/pokeweed.html

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 Posted: Sat Dec 5th, 2009 05:16 am
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Don,
  That is *beautiful*!!   Thank you so much for posting the photo.   I hope you will be displaying it at the AGG Exhibition in Detroit.   If so, please send an e-mail to Barbara (bek4450@aol.com) so that she holds a spot for you.   This panel is fabulous!  Congratulations!  We are enjoying another of your exceptional panels in our office every day.
Maria

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Hi Don!  Your work is AWESOME.  I seem to remember a conversation about donating one of your panels for the Detroit Auction!!  WoooHooo!  Hard to believe it's that time of the year that I put requests out there!  Really, your work is fabulous and I know many people would love some of your work for their collections.

Kathy Jordan

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 Posted: Sat Dec 5th, 2009 03:01 pm
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Beautiful piece, Don.  Thanks for posting it!  Best, Mary


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