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Windows, to bathe or not to bathe?
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bbates
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 Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 09:17 pm
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The studio in which I currently work does not submerse the stained glass window during the restoration process. They never have... I can see the benefits of such a measure.

Could I get a little feedback concerning this step? Pros, Cons...

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 Posted: Thu Jun 3rd, 2010 03:43 am
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Ben, 
There are benefits to submerging stained glass panels in water during dissassembly, such as minimizing lead dust in the work area.   However, it is first crucial to determine if the paint is stable or fragile.  On the occasions that I do determine it appropriate to soak panels, I use warm water and a mild solution of non-ionic detergent such as Triton XLN-80, or Orvus. 
Please let me know if you need more information.
Roberto 
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 Thu Jun 3rd, 2010 10:53 am
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Thanks, That's just what I wanted to hear. I have recently started a regiment of using orvus instead of spray cleaner.  It's gonna save the company lots of $$$.

Now I just have to convince them that soaking is good, too.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 3rd, 2010 08:15 pm
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Roberto, what size is your soaking "tub" and did you have it custom made, or is there a generic supplier for these kind of things.....Thanks.   and you might discuss if you just dump the water down the drain, or do you have to filter it?  What about people who might have a septic system and not be on city sewer?

Barbara in Michigan

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 Thu Jun 3rd, 2010 10:00 pm
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I have various size tubs that I use depending on the size of the panels. However, there are times that the panels are too large to fit into the tubs, in which case I don't submerge them at all. In these cases, I lay sheets of plastic on a bench, soak towels and place them on the plastic and then place the stained glass panel on the towels. This also keeps the lead dust at a minimum.
The water from the tubs gets filtered as it goes down the drain. I use a pump filtration system purchased from Aramsco. http://www.aramsco.com   They specialize in safety products for hazardous environments.

I have actually purchased quite a few items from them, HEPA vacuum cleaners, lead wipes, dirt grabber "sticky mats" (which I place just before the entrances to my office, lunch room etc.), negative air machine. Not cheap, but all necessary.

Roberto

Last edited on Thu Jun 3rd, 2010 10:07 pm by Roberto

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Another simple solution to making tubs is to use copper flashing. Cut to size, bend up the edges and solder the overlapping seam . You will most likely be using two or more strips of flashing depending on the size of the flashing and the size of the tub.

Cut a hole for drainage and add PVC drain pipe. All available from the big supply stores ( Lowes, Home Depot, etc.)

Michael

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After working on so many places where we pulled out the old plexi, and felt bad about throwing it in the landfill (HIPPIES!) I started screwing ripped down leftover boards to the edges, siliconing the edges, and there you go...a tub! We call em' "frog ponds." All different sizes. I tend to never soak painted windows.


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